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1 The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:43 am

In the recent BBC TV programme 'The Mormon Candidate', Reporter Michael Sweeney gained two senior confirmations of the current existence of this secretive (oops...sacred) sub-organisation within the Mormon Church.

The two people directly asked about this secret Committee were Elder Jeffrey Holland and Senior Church PR Manager Michael Purdy. In both cases, their initial reaction was to deny knowledge of this Committee (known as 'lying'), but when pressed subsequently confirmed that it does exist (known as 'being caught out in a lie').

When asked about it's purpose and modus operandi Michael Purdy (after breaking eye contact, visibly shrinking in his chair and his face turning bright pink) stated that he didn't know anything about what it did.

Elder Holland on the other hand, had to be led to the answer that it's primary purpose was to protect the Saints against Polygamists. Sweeney picked up on that and followed up by asking what it's secondary purposes were. Cue Holland shifting uncomfortably in his seat and waffling for a short while. He then confirmed that it did also observe and monitor other people/members who might be a risk to the faith of the other members but that he didn't sit on the Committee and so didn't know the details of what it did.

So what did we learn for sure about this Committee?
1. It exists and operates today, right now.
2. It monitors members who it perceives as not towing the line to the extent their behaviour may affect others.
3. It is secretive and shadowy.
4. It's activities are such that senior Church leaders are uncomfortable talking about it and would be, initially, prepared to lie about it's existence and purpose.

We can also surmise that:
5. Tithing pays the wages of the people working full time for the Committee.
6. The Committee actively monitors online forums such as this one.
7. People like Grant Palmer and Michael Quinn have been victims of this Committee.

The one true Church of God on the earth today...hmmm....

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2 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:39 am

Oh, goodie. Our very own CIA...

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3 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:46 am

Drifting wrote:
6. The Committee actively monitors online forums such as this one.

I very much doubt that MDB is being monitored. If it were, I would likely at least have been asked questions about it, considering who I am related to.

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4 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:50 am

harmony wrote:Oh, goodie. Our very own CIA...

Even the blogger Eliza R. Snitch has reported (from Google statistics) having visits to her site from somebody in the COB. I'm sure they keep tabs on all websites where information critical of the church is published.

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5 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:09 pm

AdminLiz wrote:
Drifting wrote:
6. The Committee actively monitors online forums such as this one.

I very much doubt that MDB is being monitored. If it were, I would likely at least have been asked questions about it, considering who I am related to.

Come on Liz, you're not that naive.
Because of who you are related to is exactly why you haven't been asked questions.

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6 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:13 pm

Drifting1 wrote:
AdminLiz wrote:
Drifting wrote:
6. The Committee actively monitors online forums such as this one.

I very much doubt that MDB is being monitored. If it were, I would likely at least have been asked questions about it, considering who I am related to.

Come on Liz, you're not that naive.
Because of who you are related to is exactly why you haven't been asked questions.

Not necessarily. You don't think that I wouldn't be a perfect person to at least be asked questions? If they wanted to be heavy-handed, they definitely could. I would have a lot to lose if someone tried to mess with my membership.

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7 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:15 pm

AdminLiz wrote:
Drifting1 wrote:
AdminLiz wrote:
Drifting wrote:
6. The Committee actively monitors online forums such as this one.

I very much doubt that MDB is being monitored. If it were, I would likely at least have been asked questions about it, considering who I am related to.

Come on Liz, you're not that naive.
Because of who you are related to is exactly why you haven't been asked questions.

Not necessarily. You don't think that I wouldn't be a perfect person to at least be asked questions? If they wanted to be heavy-handed, they definitely could. I would have a lot to lose if someone tried to mess with my membership.

No.
I think they have a sizeable file on you and when your relative goes off to the CK someone on that committee will dust it off and start probing.

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8 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:30 pm

Drifting1 wrote:
AdminLiz wrote:
Drifting1 wrote:
AdminLiz wrote:
Drifting wrote:
6. The Committee actively monitors online forums such as this one.

I very much doubt that MDB is being monitored. If it were, I would likely at least have been asked questions about it, considering who I am related to.

Come on Liz, you're not that naive.
Because of who you are related to is exactly why you haven't been asked questions.

Not necessarily. You don't think that I wouldn't be a perfect person to at least be asked questions? If they wanted to be heavy-handed, they definitely could. I would have a lot to lose if someone tried to mess with my membership.

No.
I think they have a sizeable file on you and when your relative goes off to the CK someone on that committee will dust it off and start probing.

Well, I don't see that happening for quite a while yet.

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I very much doubt that MDB is being monitored. If it were, I would likely at least have been asked questions about it, considering who I am related to.

I've not been asked to report my findings here. I think the Church has bigger fish to fry and for the time being is not frying them, but is out maneuvering them.

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10 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:47 pm

bcspace wrote:
I very much doubt that MDB is being monitored. If it were, I would likely at least have been asked questions about it, considering who I am related to.

I've not been asked to report my findings here. I think the Church has bigger fish to fry and for the time being is not frying them, but is out maneuvering them.

I think the Committee is still trying to unravel whether your reports are official reports or just speculation and opinion...

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11 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:43 am

I've not been asked to report my findings here.

I think the Committee is still trying to unravel whether your reports are official reports or just speculation and opinion...

[Taps the sign]

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12 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:13 am

AdminLiz wrote:
Drifting wrote:
6. The Committee actively monitors online forums such as this one.

I very much doubt that MDB is being monitored. If it were, I would likely at least have been asked questions about it, considering who I am related to.

Such questioning is totally unnecessary. You need not even worry about a late night knock on the door followed by the sound of wood breaking and heavy black leather boots. Although, wouldn't it be a hoot if suddenly you found Juliann standing above you, stroking her riding crop and muttering "Vee haf vays of making you talk. Verstehen Sie?"

Tageting data for the orbital Church Security laser cannon is all that is needed.

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13 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:10 am

Why would the church need to question you? It knows everything it needs to know based solely on your posts here.

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14 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:00 am



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15 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:03 am

The entire program is on youtube now, including Holland's gaffs and admission about the spying on members committee, as well as the PR guy's denial then admission.

I'd post a link, but "new members" aren't able to

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16 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:18 am

White Buffalo wrote:The entire program is on youtube now, including Holland's gaffs and admission about the spying on members committee, as well as the PR guy's denial then admission.

I'd post a link, but "new members" aren't able to

Buff, if you miss off the http and www bits it will let you post it.

Sub, did you not hear non dodo Apostle Holland confirm that:
A. The committee exists, and
B. It monitors individual members

Follow Buff's link for confirmation it ain't no conspiracy.

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17 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:50 pm

It starts here, split up into six parts:

youtube.com/watch?v=2EVtPkafbcQ

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18 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:18 pm

White Buffalo wrote:The entire program is on youtube now, including Holland's gaffs and admission about the spying on members committee, as well as the PR guy's denial then admission.

I'd post a link, but "new members" aren't able to

Sorry about that. That is one drawback to this free server set up.

If you want to email it to me, I'll post it:

escottmusicstudio@gmail.com

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19 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:24 pm

A Danite behind every tree.... Shocked

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20 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:54 pm

I remember years ago hearing someone talk about strategies for appearing on 60 Minutes (back when they did investigative reporting). The advice at that time was to be scrupulously honest or what you said, if not the whole unadulterated truth, would blow up on you.

Too many corporate executives learned this the hard way.

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21 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:46 pm

That's why my apologetic is too strong for antiMormons to overcome. You can be sure the BBC had to cut and paste and cherry pick to get the desired result here.

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22 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:51 pm

bcspace wrote:That's why my apologetic is too strong for antiMormons to overcome. You can be sure the BBC had to cut and paste and cherry pick to get the desired result here.

I have to admit your technique of running away when backed into a corner is impressive!

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23 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:12 pm

I have to admit your technique of running away when backed into a corner is impressive!

Must be if you think I have when I have never done so.

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24 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:18 pm

bcspace wrote:
I have to admit your technique of running away when backed into a corner is impressive!

Must be if you think I have when I have never done so.

Your claim that general authorities aren't ministers springs immediately to mind.

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25 Re: The Strengthening the Members Committee... on Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:42 pm

Your claim that general authorities aren't ministers springs immediately to mind.

When you come up with something to gainsay the typical definition I used, let me know.

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